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lemere

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2011-02-08 1-19-49-

Discussion of media consumption, anyone? Since this forum is an online community, I thought this might be an interesting topic... What got me thinking about this was an article by Mark Morford that I read this morning (link below.) It's basiy about how television, a passive medium chock-full of annoying ads, is a very passive experience (I'm paraphrasing here) but that the internet is more active, participatory, even community based. The internet can be a huge time waster, it's true - and I know I'm capable of zoning out on the web every bit as much as I am while thumbing in my 4th episode of "Law & Order" at 1am - but it's also a source of information, and you largely choose what you get, or at least what you start out to get. And it's also a way for people to express themselves, self-publish... when I think about blogs, Flickr,(I know, but bear with me) and YouTube, it reminds me of the self-publishing and home studio/DIY booms late in the last century, where media production became more accessible to individuals. And then there are online communities, like SecondLife, Live Journal, and yeah, this here - where people interact, share information, argue, meet, and yeah, sometimes annoy the hell out of each other. Human stuff. I just like thinking and talking about this stuff. Anything that shifts media consumption into a more active zone, or at where media, and the consumption thereof, is thought about more critiy, is fascinating to me. These are just random thoughts to get a ball rolling.... anyone in? Morford's article:
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2011-02-10 5-10-17-

I think it is odd that TV is partly linked to the increasing incidence of ADD b/c it does not hold my attention & I do not even have ADD. I never just sit & watch TV. I have it on for maybe an hour as I am falling asleep at night & that is it. The internet, on the other hand, very much holds my attention but only interactive venues such as this Cruising websites for info does not keep my attention for very long. But I think it is more of a social issue than a passive/active issue. At least for me.
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  • droessler

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    2011-02-11 20-01-12

    Interesting, and good points. A friend of mine and I talk about this a lot. He and I both work at home, and almost exclusively on computers. We talk a lot about how our brains seem to work differently now - we are so used to the rapid click-away, and the bite-size info bits. I actually had to re-train my brain to read a novel a few weeks ago!
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    2011-02-13 0-29-28-

    also! I grew up with no TV in the house. Am I the only one? My mom is viciously anti-television and we never had until I was in high school.
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    2011-02-15 8-05-17-

    Me too! We had to read aloud after dinner, and before homework! My first exposure to popular television was at a friends house in high school... I learned really quickly to dummy-up when the were talking about their favorite shows, I got made fun of unmercifully...
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  • litwak

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    2011-02-15 15-59-13

    I take that back... I saw the Avengers and Jonny Quest at my cousins house...
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    2011-02-18 23-43-09

    Yea... I'm kind of worried about the coming up that, for various reasons, don't run around outside playing like a pack of feral beasties like we did as ... I have this haunting image of generations of squishy pallid faces with screen reflections flashing across their eyes... (Too much science fiction?)
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    2011-03-05 1-28-14-

    Did you see that book Last in the Woods? He talks about "nature deficit disorder." What was really striking to me when the book came out was hearing in reviews how so many of us of a certain age had that same experience of running around "feral," and how fondly we remember it, and how rare it is anymore for to be allowed to do that.
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    2011-04-11 16-57-57

    I know - I ran around like crazy by myself in the woods until it got dark, rode a bike without wearing a helmet, skateboarded without the benefit of full-body armor, and trick-or-treated without fear. Oh yeah, and we walked to school ten miles. In the snow. Barefoot. (Shaking my fist from my rocking chair on the porch) These young today!!!!
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    But, at the same time, there was a certain element of "Lord of the Flies" to it as well... We had no parental supervision, and we were very feral... I learned about fire and evil personalities quite early as a result... So, I can kind of understand why modern mommies and daddies may only want to unleash their progeny on the soccer/little league field...
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    I guess. But I still feel sorry for modern . Everything seems so regulated and goal-focused. It makes me sad.
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    2011-08-08 5-56-18-

    Well said...
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    2011-08-19 23-17-10

    I will be needing to read that book, thanks... Nature Deficit Disorder, of course they've coined a term for it. It is amazing, the restorative qualities of simply taking a walk/hike outside.
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    2011-09-09 8-04-10-

    I had that hood too. B & W set which mostly mom watched in the evenings while I played in the canyon, did homework, or read. Except for Saturday morning cartoons, when I watched for hours in a sugar coma. After I went away to college she got a color set. I'm trying to reproduce it for my . No TV, no cable but we do watch DVD's. I figure in the days of yore people used that TV time to read, cook, play music, and do handcrafts. Dying arts, all.
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  • mccutchan

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    2011-10-05 4-56-22-

    I like the way you can choose what info to get your teeth into with the internet. Print, cable tv, radio you can only choose from what they give you. I like the interactive bits of the net too. I'm a really big fan of links. It's so much easier than having to go drag another volume of the encyclopedia out, or having to go out to the store/library to find some volume with the info you need. A big plus to the internet is being able to find info about therapists/support groups/whatever. Has anyone used the phone book recently to get that kind of info? It's horribly out of date, you waste valuable time/cell phone minutes trying to get info that you can get with maybe clicks of the mouse. I will say however, that I miss the days of doing Boolean searches. *says* they still do them, but it's quite obvious they don't. I hate having to wade through crap to find what I'm looking for. (Just thinking about this the other day.)
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    2011-12-03 6-13-36-

    I could this (ha!) but I want to ask you for your definition - what is a Boolean search? I caught myself nodding sagely while reading your post, and then stopped and realized I had no idea....
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    2012-01-02 21-23-14

    increase your google-fu by learning this. Here is a tutorial: (really? you probably already do this) you can also substitute "-" for "not"
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    2012-02-29 20-43-04

    Oh damn and I took that bit out cuz I didn't want to make it sound like I didn't think anyone else knew what was. It's when you had to search for things using "and" "or" "not" terms in the search. For example: "Queen Elizabeth I" and (sometimes a + sign) "Dudley" and "Kenilworth". So it would have to have all those terms in the document for a hit to come back. This was, I dunno, mid-to-late xs search engine stuff. I forget when it went away but I'm guess not long before 'x (I think). I hear tell of some search engines that still do it that way, but am afraid they're only old wive's tales. :)
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    2012-04-15 2-14-56-

    Don't get me started on ... Have you noticed it's now returning "close"' hits? Like you're looking for a person, "Don Smith," and and it returns the name Smith next to the word "don't"? (I just made that up as an example, but it's the phenomenon I've been noticing.) It's irking when machines think they know what I want to find when they don't.
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    2012-04-23 21-59-13

    Yeah, that's when I tried a boolean search and found out it made no difference. They *used* to give a good selection of hits, so I'm thinking the algorithm (I think?) has changed over the years. I think Dogpile isof the few ones that still allows a boolean search. Has anyone noticed how Ask.com (formerly AskJeeves.com) has been giving crappier and crappier results?
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    2012-08-01 21-50-12

    I never loved Ask :-( I think you can still do a "near" search on Google. But the results lately are like they've decided to have their algorithm think for people, and that's just creepy (as well as often delivering bad results).
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    In the days before google *gasp*, I was only using Dogpile. *goes off to check if it still exists* It does! I'm switching back, methinks. Altavista was the otherthat was supposedly really really good back in the day.
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    I liked Altavista, too for the Boolean searchability. RIP...
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    It still exists! And the boolean search ain't half bad either, I just didnot that long ago.
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    agreed. and I was trying to think of Dogpile...you beat me to it. In our (society's) quest to be bigger, stronger, faster, we once again will defeat the purpose by creating a Just like vehicles. We want the best, be it muscle car, hybrid, sleek lil sports car, hummer...whatever. We're constantly creating the next generation without a plan to safely do away with the relics of the past. We end up with so many cars on the highways and by-ways (and on car lots, and in junk yards etc) that we're truly bogged down by our own desire to have it all. We want to go fast but we still have the slower vehicles in the fast lane. Same goes for the information. We create only to have someone do it better the next day, and the next, and the next, and the next untilday we're so bogged down with all these great ideas that we end up slowed to a halt having to sift thru all the "like" terms to get to what we really want. It would be nice to be able to sit down at my desk to research something and only have it take an hour or so online. These days, with all the *improvements* to Google, I plan for at least x-x hours. As for TV, it used to be fun to sit and watch a movie...Now, as was mentioned earlier, the commercials are so obnoxious and there seem to be so darn many these days that it's just easier to rent or like LON, watch L&O online. There's much to be gained from taking time away and just going for a walk and leaving the *media* behind!
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